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		<title>By: Bijan Parsia</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-2/#comment-4271</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijan Parsia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm aware of Fresnel (and, indeed, we use it in &lt;a href="http://clarkparsia.com/projects/code/jspace/" rel="nofollow"&gt;JSpace&lt;/a&gt;.

My point is completely distinct from RDF. My point is that there is a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; of Javascript + CSS out there that make many sites way more usable (for certainly classes of users, including me!), but I wish more of these interactive features were available &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; having to use an idiosyncratic implementation of them in a full fledged, but inconsistently  implemented, programming language.

Javascript programmers have done amazing things (just see &lt;a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;OAT&lt;/a&gt;), but I like web pages to be safer than they are and still usable. Some things are easy to roll in (toggling visibility of text...that should be built in; footnotes; lots of widgets). They would be easier to use as well (though the best Javascript libraries do a pretty good job of making widgets plug and go).

Finally, none of the Fresnel implementations have one of the most charming features of Exhibit: working in standalone pages. It's obviously not impossible to make one up, but doing it straight from RDF would probably be pretty painful. Something Fresnelish tuned for Exhibit databases would certainly be easier to get going, I'd imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m aware of Fresnel (and, indeed, we use it in <a href="http://clarkparsia.com/projects/code/jspace/" rel="nofollow">JSpace</a>.</p>
<p>My point is completely distinct from RDF. My point is that there is a <em>lot</em> of Javascript + CSS out there that make many sites way more usable (for certainly classes of users, including me!), but I wish more of these interactive features were available <em>without</em> having to use an idiosyncratic implementation of them in a full fledged, but inconsistently  implemented, programming language.</p>
<p>Javascript programmers have done amazing things (just see <a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/" rel="nofollow">OAT</a>), but I like web pages to be safer than they are and still usable. Some things are easy to roll in (toggling visibility of text&#8230;that should be built in; footnotes; lots of widgets). They would be easier to use as well (though the best Javascript libraries do a pretty good job of making widgets plug and go).</p>
<p>Finally, none of the Fresnel implementations have one of the most charming features of Exhibit: working in standalone pages. It&#8217;s obviously not impossible to make one up, but doing it straight from RDF would probably be pretty painful. Something Fresnelish tuned for Exhibit databases would certainly be easier to get going, I&#8217;d imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bijan Parsia</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8542</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijan Parsia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm aware of Fresnel (and, indeed, we use it in &lt;a href="http://clarkparsia.com/projects/code/jspace/" rel="nofollow"&gt;JSpace&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point is completely distinct from RDF. My point is that there is a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; of Javascript + CSS out there that make many sites way more usable (for certainly classes of users, including me!), but I wish more of these interactive features were available &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; having to use an idiosyncratic implementation of them in a full fledged, but inconsistently  implemented, programming language.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Javascript programmers have done amazing things (just see &lt;a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;OAT&lt;/a&gt;), but I like web pages to be safer than they are and still usable. Some things are easy to roll in (toggling visibility of text...that should be built in; footnotes; lots of widgets). They would be easier to use as well (though the best Javascript libraries do a pretty good job of making widgets plug and go).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, none of the Fresnel implementations have one of the most charming features of Exhibit: working in standalone pages. It's obviously not impossible to make one up, but doing it straight from RDF would probably be pretty painful. Something Fresnelish tuned for Exhibit databases would certainly be easier to get going, I'd imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m aware of Fresnel (and, indeed, we use it in <a href="http://clarkparsia.com/projects/code/jspace/" rel="nofollow">JSpace</a>.</p>
<p>My point is completely distinct from RDF. My point is that there is a <em>lot</em> of Javascript + CSS out there that make many sites way more usable (for certainly classes of users, including me!), but I wish more of these interactive features were available <em>without</em> having to use an idiosyncratic implementation of them in a full fledged, but inconsistently  implemented, programming language.</p>
<p>Javascript programmers have done amazing things (just see <a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/" rel="nofollow">OAT</a>), but I like web pages to be safer than they are and still usable. Some things are easy to roll in (toggling visibility of text&#8230;that should be built in; footnotes; lots of widgets). They would be easier to use as well (though the best Javascript libraries do a pretty good job of making widgets plug and go).</p>
<p>Finally, none of the Fresnel implementations have one of the most charming features of Exhibit: working in standalone pages. It&#8217;s obviously not impossible to make one up, but doing it straight from RDF would probably be pretty painful. Something Fresnelish tuned for Exhibit databases would certainly be easier to get going, I&#8217;d imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bijan Parsia</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8136</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijan Parsia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm aware of Fresnel (and, indeed, we use it in &lt;a href="http://clarkparsia.com/projects/code/jspace/" rel="nofollow"&gt;JSpace&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point is completely distinct from RDF. My point is that there is a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; of Javascript + CSS out there that make many sites way more usable (for certainly classes of users, including me!), but I wish more of these interactive features were available &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; having to use an idiosyncratic implementation of them in a full fledged, but inconsistently  implemented, programming language.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Javascript programmers have done amazing things (just see &lt;a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;OAT&lt;/a&gt;), but I like web pages to be safer than they are and still usable. Some things are easy to roll in (toggling visibility of text...that should be built in; footnotes; lots of widgets). They would be easier to use as well (though the best Javascript libraries do a pretty good job of making widgets plug and go).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, none of the Fresnel implementations have one of the most charming features of Exhibit: working in standalone pages. It's obviously not impossible to make one up, but doing it straight from RDF would probably be pretty painful. Something Fresnelish tuned for Exhibit databases would certainly be easier to get going, I'd imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m aware of Fresnel (and, indeed, we use it in <a href="http://clarkparsia.com/projects/code/jspace/" rel="nofollow">JSpace</a>.</p>
<p>My point is completely distinct from RDF. My point is that there is a <em>lot</em> of Javascript + CSS out there that make many sites way more usable (for certainly classes of users, including me!), but I wish more of these interactive features were available <em>without</em> having to use an idiosyncratic implementation of them in a full fledged, but inconsistently  implemented, programming language.</p>
<p>Javascript programmers have done amazing things (just see <a href="http://www.openlinksw.com/" rel="nofollow">OAT</a>), but I like web pages to be safer than they are and still usable. Some things are easy to roll in (toggling visibility of text&#8230;that should be built in; footnotes; lots of widgets). They would be easier to use as well (though the best Javascript libraries do a pretty good job of making widgets plug and go).</p>
<p>Finally, none of the Fresnel implementations have one of the most charming features of Exhibit: working in standalone pages. It&#8217;s obviously not impossible to make one up, but doing it straight from RDF would probably be pretty painful. Something Fresnelish tuned for Exhibit databases would certainly be easier to get going, I&#8217;d imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brondsema</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4268</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Brondsema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresnel (http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/) is a declarative format for how RDF should be presented.  None of the interactive features that Exhibit gives you, would be possible.  Maybe.  But it could be a nice way to have a RDF-driven homepage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresnel (http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/) is a declarative format for how RDF should be presented.  None of the interactive features that Exhibit gives you, would be possible.  Maybe.  But it could be a nice way to have a RDF-driven homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brondsema</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8541</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Brondsema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresnel (&lt;a href="http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/"&gt;http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/&lt;/a&gt;) is a declarative format for how RDF should be presented.  None of the interactive features that Exhibit gives you, would be possible.  Maybe.  But it could be a nice way to have a RDF-driven homepage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresnel (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/">http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/</a>) is a declarative format for how RDF should be presented.  None of the interactive features that Exhibit gives you, would be possible.  Maybe.  But it could be a nice way to have a RDF-driven homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brondsema</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8135</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Brondsema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresnel (&lt;a href="http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/"&gt;http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/&lt;/a&gt;) is a declarative format for how RDF should be presented.  None of the interactive features that Exhibit gives you, would be possible.  Maybe.  But it could be a nice way to have a RDF-driven homepage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresnel (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/">http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/</a>) is a declarative format for how RDF should be presented.  None of the interactive features that Exhibit gives you, would be possible.  Maybe.  But it could be a nice way to have a RDF-driven homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bijan Parsia</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4267</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijan Parsia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't know about that site. It looks handy.

I might try the experiment of extracting stuff via this RDFization. Though, the XSLT is pretty trivial and has done the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know about that site. It looks handy.</p>
<p>I might try the experiment of extracting stuff via this RDFization. Though, the XSLT is pretty trivial and has done the job.</p>
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		<title>By: florent</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4266</link>
		<dc:creator>florent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Instead of using XSLT, you could also use directly the RDF access to DBLP : http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/ 
Normally a Sparql query can give you all the needed data.
Did you try this way ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Instead of using XSLT, you could also use directly the RDF access to DBLP : <a href="http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/" rel="nofollow">http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/</a> <br />
Normally a Sparql query can give you all the needed data.<br />
Did you try this way ?</p>
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		<title>By: Bijan Parsia</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8540</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijan Parsia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't know about that site. It looks handy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I might try the experiment of extracting stuff via this RDFization. Though, the XSLT is pretty trivial and has done the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know about that site. It looks handy.</p>
<p>I might try the experiment of extracting stuff via this RDFization. Though, the XSLT is pretty trivial and has done the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Bijan Parsia</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8134</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijan Parsia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't know about that site. It looks handy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I might try the experiment of extracting stuff via this RDFization. Though, the XSLT is pretty trivial and has done the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know about that site. It looks handy.</p>
<p>I might try the experiment of extracting stuff via this RDFization. Though, the XSLT is pretty trivial and has done the job.</p>
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		<title>By: florent</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8539</link>
		<dc:creator>florent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,&lt;br&gt;Instead of using XSLT, you could also use directly the RDF access to DBLP : &lt;a href="http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/"&gt;http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;Normally a Sparql query can give you all the needed data.&lt;br&gt;Did you try this way ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Instead of using XSLT, you could also use directly the RDF access to DBLP : <a href="http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/">http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/</a> <br />
Normally a Sparql query can give you all the needed data.<br />
Did you try this way ?</p>
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		<title>By: florent</title>
		<link>http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/comment-page-1/#comment-8133</link>
		<dc:creator>florent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://clarkparsia.com/weblog/2007/03/15/exhibit-ionism/#comment-8133</guid>
		<description>Hi,&lt;br&gt;Instead of using XSLT, you could also use directly the RDF access to DBLP : &lt;a href="http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/"&gt;http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;Normally a Sparql query can give you all the needed data.&lt;br&gt;Did you try this way ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Instead of using XSLT, you could also use directly the RDF access to DBLP : <a href="http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/">http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/dblp/</a> <br />
Normally a Sparql query can give you all the needed data.<br />
Did you try this way ?</p>
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